Demetrious Johnson vs Dana White Fuckery

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    • Demetrious Johnson vs Dana White Fuckery

      Laut Dana White will man Demetrious Johnson vs. TJ Dillashaw um den Flyweight Title ansetzen im August. Johnson lehnt den Fight jedoch ab, und sagt das Dillashaw erstmal ein Flyweight Fight bestreiten soll, bevor er ein Titlefight bekommt. Johnson selbst will lieber auf Ray Borg treffen.

      Dana White sagte nun dazu:

      “You know how I am with that stuff. Unfortunately for D.J., you don’t make the fights around here. I do. That’s the fight we’re pushing for. That’s the fight. I talked to T.J. Dillashaw again, that’s the fight he wants. He’s already cutting weight. That’s gonna probably be Aug. 19.

      So Dillashaw’s like, I can make this weight, and I’m gonna stop him from breaking that record. T.J. is gonna go down to 125 to fight D.J. to stop him from breaking the record. D.J. doesn’t want to fight him. It’s insanity.

      This is the first fight ever in D.J.’s history that he actually gets pay-per-view points. This is the first fight that people will care about and want to see on pay-per-view and he’s refusing to fight T.J. Dillashaw.

      If you look at Ray Borg, what’s he ranked right now, 5 or 6? The guy’s ranked 5 or 6. T.J. Dillashaw is a former world champion coming down from the weight class above who’s next in line for the title shot there. Absolutely he’s next in line if that’s what he wants. It’s nothing against Ray Borg.”

      Nun, das Problem hier ist, Dana White bullshitet natuerlich wieder de Fans, und hofft das es niemand merkt.

      -#1 Joseph Benavidez gewann ein #1 Contender Fight und ist der #1 Contender, und bekommt kein Titlefight. Was Bullshit ist.
      -#2 Ray Borg ist laut den UFC Rankings nicht 5 oder 6, sondern auf 3. Und wenn man sich andere UFC Titlefights anschaut, zum Beispiel das Middleweight, da hat zuletzt der #15 gerankte Dan Henderson einen MW Titlefight bekommen…
      -#3 es ist absolut verstaendlich das jemand der einen Titlefight in einer Gewichtsklasse bekommt, schonmal in der Gewichtsklasse angetreten sein sollte…ausser halt in der UFC…
      -#4 es gibt einige Fighter (Champions) die suchen sich ihre Gegner aus…Conor McGregor…hust…aber der Double Standard ist okay, wenn es der Erfolg rechtfertigt…
      -#5 aus Promoter Sicht: Johnson vs Dillashaw ist interessant keine Frage, und wird das mehr drawen wie Johnson vs Borg? Ja! ABER, das ist kurzfristiges denken. Stellt euch vor, Dillashaw bestreitet erst 1-2 Flyweight Fights, dann haette der Johnson vs Dillashaw Fight MEHR interesse. Aber Promoter denken immer kurzfristig, und vorallem biegen sie sich die Wahrheit so hin, wie sie es brauchen.
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    • Demetrious Johnson vs Dana White Fuckery Update

      Laut Demetrious Johnson hat die UFC ihm damit gedroht die Flyweight Division zu schliessen wenn er nicht auf TJ Dillashaw trifft.

      “Unfortunately, UFC’s mistreatment and bullying has finally forced me to speak out. I’ve decided to speak out now as I feel like my values and character as a person and a fighter are being tarnished by an organization.

      Yeah, matchmaker Mick Maynard called and said, ‘Hey man, I just want you to know, this is what they’re coming back with. It’s either you fight TJ or we close the flyweight division.’ I said, ‘close the motherfucking division then.'”

      In einem Statement sagte Demetrious Johnson zudem:

      For years I have been a company man and kept quiet, accepting fights, doing as they asked, and always remaining humble and grateful for the opportunities provided to me through mixed martial arts. This is how I was raised through the sport. Unfortunately, UFC’s mistreatment and bullying has finally forced me to speak out. I’ve decided to speak out now as I feel like my values and character as a person and a fighter are being tarnished by an organization I’ve done nothing but sweat and bleed for over the last seven years of my life. If it takes me speaking up and encouraging other fighters to ban together to start getting fair treatment, then so be it.

      UFC Matchmaker Mick Maynard called and offered the fight vs. Ray Borg. I thought [Sergio] Pettis was a more marketable name and on a longer winning streak. Mick went back to Dana, then came back and told us that I had no choice, it was going to be Ray Borg, not Pettis, and there were no other options. That was the command from Dana and company. This would mean that my only chance at PPV points at flyweight was vs. Ray Borg. I said OK, but it’s not fair to make that my only chance at PPV points, when Cody Garbrandt is saying he wants to come down and fight me at flyweight, which was the fight I wanted. We told Mick that to be fair we would take the fight, but [we] want PPV points for future fights at flyweight. Mick agreed and said it was fair and didn’t see any problem with that situation. Mick spoke to Dana and [UFC matchmaker] Sean Shelby, who then told him to deny giving me any future PPV points for all of my future flyweight fights. Further, I still had to fight Ray Borg and they were giving me no other choice. I accepted the fight with Ray and decided to deal with the unfair situation and despicable treatment by Dana and Sean after I succeed in breaking the consecutive title fight defense record in my next fight vs. Borg. Mick thanked me for accepting the fight, knowing that I was being screwed over and mistreated by Dana and Sean.

      I wanted a reason for not being allowed any future PPV points. Sean Shelby called and told us how smaller fighters don’t sell, that UFC can’t make stars of anyone, and that a fight between Cody and I wouldn’t be a sellable fight. We disagreed. I think a fight between Cody and I would be popular if it was even given a small serving of the marketing efforts put into other big fights.

      UFC has failed to market and promote me appropriately. Prior to my last fight, where I tied the record for the most consecutive successful title defenses, we waited to re-post UFC’s social media posts about me from their Facebook page. There weren’t any posts until a few days into fight week, then, there were a total of two posts. In comparison to others who they promote across their social media platforms, they failed to do their job in promoting me and that monumental event. In my recent conversations, Sean and Dana have confirmed UFC’s lack of desire to put any effort into promoting us.

      In addition to the above, I want to address the lack of marketing and promotion of the flyweight division, even though Dana will claim otherwise. I would challenge that the UFC doesn’t even market the division. It’s been three years since the UFC launched three new divisions in two years (2012 to 2014) where they focused most of their marketing efforts to grow female mixed martial arts, which I understand. But, we are now three years post-launch, and the company continues to do the bare minimum in marketing the division well past the launch of these other divisions. As a fighter, I pay very close attention to the amount of marketing that goes into and around my fights and I can tell you that you’d be hard pressed to find much that has been done to promote me outside of TUF 24, which was minimal in comparison to other fights, fighters and shows. With me, the UFC chooses not to market the best fighter in the world and arguably the greatest fighter of all time. I can’t think of any other sports organization in the world that has the best player in the sport where the league, or the organization, doesn’t market that player to their loyal fan base to sell more of their product. Look at my track record for showing up to fights. Look at my track record of finishing fights. Look at my track record of getting fight night bonuses. Ask yourself if you think that if the UFC decided to truly put marketing dollars behind me that they couldn’t sell me or my fights.

      Completely unrelated — and after the accepted fight vs. Ray Borg — Cody Garbradt injured his back and TJ Dillashaw said he wanted to fight me. Dana told me he wanted me to fight TJ, which I disagreed with for multiple reasons. First, TJ has never fought at flyweight and is unlikely to make the weight, which would then eliminate the possibility of breaking the title defense record. Second, they have already told me that a fight between Cody and I wouldn’t be sellable, so fighting TJ would have no monetary upside. Third, TJ is not a flyweight or a current champion in another weight class and was KO’ed by the flyweight whom I beat twice already. Last, Ray Borg and I already agreed to the fight, which UFC tyrannically demanded, while denying me any future PPV points.

      After telling Dana my reasons, Dana angrily told me that I am fighting TJ, once again, with no other option or say in my career, and against the plans we had previously laid out. He went on further to say that if I didn’t take the fight against TJ, and drop Borg as the opponent, he would get rid of the entire flyweight division. He said, this is for TJ and I’m taking away TJ’s opportunity. That fact that he feels that what I should do in my career is for TJ, tells where his priority lies.

      Sorry Dana, my career is about Demetrious Johnson and my goals of fighting the best current flyweights, breaking the record of title defenses, going after the bantamweight champion after I have broken the record, and making money for my family. My career is not about doing for Dana’s buddy, who is neither a bantamweight champion or flyweight contender. We ended by disagreeing and left it there. The next day, Dana went to the media and announced that I was fighting TJ Dillashaw, in an obvious attempt to bully me in the media and tarnish my reputation. I posted a short statement letting people know that I had not agreed to the TJ fight, but had already agreed to fight Ray Borg, as demanded by UFC.

      Dana put up an interview stating that it was “insane” that I didn’t want to fight TJ, that “he makes the matches and that is the match he is making,” and, “You tell me why DJ doesn’t want to fight TJ,” trying to make it as though I am scared or ducking TJ Dillashaw.

      Mick spoke to me to try to change the offer from Ray to TJ. I told Mick that I thought TJ should fight once in the division first, prove he can make the weight and get a win at that weight, then fight me if I wasn’t already busy with Cody. Mick agreed that it made the most sense.

      Later Mick called again, as mandated by Dana, to try to make the fight with TJ and drop Ray. We told him that we didn’t think TJ would make the weight and the fight would be off since it would no longer be a title fight without TJ making weight. Mick said they guaranteed that TJ would make weight. We told him that since it was guaranteed by TJ and UFC was demanding and putting me in a bad circumstance, then it is fair that if TJ didn’t make weight, the fight would be off and I would still get my guarantee, plus TJ’s guaranteed pay. Mick said that Ray would be on the card and he could fill in if TJ didn’t make weight. We said, oh, then which one do I train for? I thought TJ guaranteed he was making weight. Is it a world championship with the No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter on earth, or an amateur tournament where I don’t know who I’m fighting until I get there. Obviously there was no guarantee and they just wanted to push me to do something that they knew wasn’t a good choice for my career. The “guarantees” that they made had nothing to back them up and they were unwilling to give a real guarantee to compensate me for all the damage I put on my body preparing for a fight that may not happen. The fact that they said Ray will be a backup shows the lack of respect they have for what we go through in preparing for a fight at this level.

      Mick went back to Dana and Sean, then came back and told us that they don’t agree with my request and I have to fight TJ with no guarantee to make weight or financial incentive if he doesn’t make weight. This is typical of the unfulfilled promises and bullying that has gone on through my UFC career.

      In summary:

      I agreed to their tyrannical demand to fight Ray Borg and Ray also agreed.

      UFC has refused to give me PPV points on any future flyweight bouts, and has never given me any PPV points on previous bouts. My request was fair and the matchmaker in charge of the flyweight and bantamweight division agreed.

      I gave UFC fair conditions to change the fight to TJ Dillashaw and they refused.

      Dana and Sean have told me that they have no interest in marketing me or the smaller divisions, so when they say that I will make PPV money vs. Dillashaw, they leave out the fact that I have to hit certain numbers of buys, which will not be hit if they fail in marketing me like they have in my previous fights.

      If TJ doesn’t make weight, I can’t break the record for the most consecutive title defenses and they have denied paying me in that circumstance.

      Dana has made an effort to bully me in the media as well as in private, in order to get what he wants, even though it is not what is best for me or the sport.

      If Dana says this will be a big PPV fight for me, and that they will promote it properly, then he can pay for it up front and explain to Ray Borg why he is being taken out of the fight that the UFC matchmaker in charge of the division put him in. Otherwise, it is just another lie and attempt to bully me to do something that Dana wants, but is not the right thing to do for the sport or my career.

      UFC’s track record in making an effort to promote my fights, and Dana’s claim that this is a big chance for PPV dollars for me tells a different story than what Dana is stating to the public.

      Sollte das von Demetrious Johnson stimmen, und ich gehe davon aus das es stimmt, dann waere das von der UFC und Dana White ein neuer Tiefpunkt. Dana White hatte mal vor 12 Jahren einen rant gehabt ueber Boxing Promoter die daran schuld seien das das Boxing nicht mehr so erfolgreich ist. Dana White hatte damals viele Richtige Punkte aufgezaehlt, aber schon erschreckend wie er sich den Boxing Promotern angeglichen hat und diesselben Fehler macht. Die UFC wird wenn sie so weiter macht immer mehr Legimitaet und ihre Top Fighter verlieren.

      Auch TJ Dillashaw hat sich geauessert mittlerweile und die Gruende genannt warum es eine gute Idee ist ihm einen Titlefight zu geben, und es auch Sinn machen wuerde fuer Demetrious Johnson:

      “I feel like it’s disappointing that Demetrious is going to go out this way and not take the fight. I don’t care if it’s Cody or if it’s Demetrious, I just want to fight. I want to fight soon. I want that big title fight.

      But I need to know sooner than later, because I’m in the process of changing my entire body around right now. This isn’t an eight-week process; this is a 12-week process. Not only do I want to make the weight, I want to perform at the weight, as well.

      I think the smartest thing for me to do is stay on the path I’m on now until Demetrious mans up and realizes he’s going to ruin his legacy by not taking this fight.

      Johnson wants pay-per-view, which he would get if he fights me. He wants to be promoted, which he would get if he fights me. We both want the same thing – we both want to be the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world, as well as make a lot of money and be promoted. To fix all those problems, the only thing he has to do is fight me.

      Demetrious wants to say I’m jumping the line to fight him when there is no line to jump. Cody jumping in front of me to fight for the title is a bigger jump than me jumping the line at 125 to fight him.

      He should be worried about Ray Borg missing weight; he’s missed weight half of his career. I’ve never missed weight since I was 8 years old wrestling. Tell him he can have my show money if I miss the weight. I ain’t going to miss it. It’s just another excuse not to take the fight.

      I don’t know why it’s pulling teeth with him. The only thing I can think of is that he’s scared to lose his belt.

      There’s been a lot of attention, more attention than Demetrious has gotten in a long time because I said I’d fight him. It’s been proven there’s attention behind this fight. He’s going to be fighting to break the record, and nobody’s going to watch it vs. Borg.”

      Das lustige ist…Dillashaw ist ja selbst kein Draw, der war selbst mit Demetrious Johnson der lowest drawing UFC Champion aller Zeiten. Wie bei Johnson lag das sicher auch daran, dass beide kaum vermarktet wurden, aber es ist lustig wenn er und die UFC das Argument anfuehren “Johnson vs Dillashaw ist der Fight den die Fans sehen wollen“.

      Ich gehe auch davon aus, ein Johnson vs Dillashaw Fight wuerde besser drawen wie Johnson vs Borg, aber die Differenz wird nicht gross sein. Und fuer eine Differenz, vorallem wenn sie nicht wirklich gross ist, sollte man dennoch nicht das sportliche ausser Acht lassen.

      Den mit dem Matchmaking sieht man Bisping vs Henderson, oder Bisping vs GSP, aber es gibt auch viele Fans die genau das nicht sehen wollen, die mehr Wert legen auf das sportliche, und langfristig glaube ich schadet man sich mehr mit diesem Matchmaking.
      The Shockmaster botcht sein Debut als er hinfaellt….
      Davey Boy Smith kommentiert das trocken im Fernsehen:“He fell flat on his fooking arse…”
    • Dana White vs Demetrious Johnson

      Dana White sagte nun, dass er unzufrieden sei damit das Demetrious Johnson den Fight mit TJ Dillashaw ablehnte. Er koennte nun auf Ray Borg treffen:“You want Ray Borg, we’ll give you Ray Borg.”


      Sarkastisch fuegte er an:”I’m sure the fans will be clamoring, and ticket sales will be through the roof and pay-per-views will be off the charts.”
      The Shockmaster botcht sein Debut als er hinfaellt….
      Davey Boy Smith kommentiert das trocken im Fernsehen:“He fell flat on his fooking arse…”
    • TJ Dillashaw Update

      TJ Dillashaw gab bekannt das er nicht in der 125 Pounds Division antreten wird, und weiter in der 135 Pounds Division bleibt. Wollte halt nur den Titlefight und sonst nichts.
      The Shockmaster botcht sein Debut als er hinfaellt….
      Davey Boy Smith kommentiert das trocken im Fernsehen:“He fell flat on his fooking arse…”