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    • NJPW Dominion 6.11.

      Das Okada vs Omega Rematch war fuer Meltzer noch besser als das Erste, und dem ersten hat er 6 Stars gegeben. Wenn er konsequent waere, muesste er dem Match hier nun mehr als 6 Stars geben…und damit erneut zu geben das sein eigenes 5 Star Match Rating System nicht funktioniert….



      Ich fand das Zweite nicht so gut wie das Erste, aber es war natuerlich immer noch sehr gut. Es war zwar dramatischer, aber das auf Kosten des Finishes und vorallem des Sellings, was zeitweise schrecklich war. Es kommt halt drauf an was man mag und auf was man schaut. Wenn man high pace Matches mag bis zur 60 Minute, oder den Bullet Club mag, dann ist es super. Ich finde, man sollte es so sellen, das man eben in der 50 Minute nach so viel Schaden am Koerper, nicht mehr full speed in die Seile rennt wie in Minute 1… und das war keine Ausnahme, die beiden sellten oefters das Match nicht.

      Ich fand Omega vs Okada II gut, aber fuer mich noch nicht Mal MOTN. Tanahashi vs Naito fand ich auch hier besser wie Okada vs Omega, wie bei Wrestle Kingdom.
      Mark Nulty †2016
    • Hiromu vs KUSHIDA war MotN für mich, wobei ich Tanahashi vs Naito noch nicht gesehen habe. Sehr starke Vorstellung. Hiromu ist Gold wert!



      Nefercheperur schrieb:

      Die Verletzung war echt, die OP auch.

      So gut das Match auch war, die headbutt spots sind idiotisch. In Japan haben sie es z.t. immer noch nichts gelernt, da wird es irgendwann den naechsten Ungluecksfall geben. Shibata ist definitiv einer derjenigen der seine Gesundheit mit seinem Stil schadet.

      Shibata war mein japanischer Bret Hart. Nicht das ganz grosse Charisma, aber einer für die ganz grossen Kämpfe. Wenn nur diese unseeligen Headbuds nicht wären. Sein Stil ist so glaubhaft. Aber er, Ishii, Honma, Goto und so viele mehr gehen manchmal zu weit für meinen Geschmack.

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    • Meltzer Ratings fuer Dominion

      ******1/4 fuer Okada vs Omega II…

      Kazuchika Okada and Kenny Omega followed one of the greatest pro wrestling matches of all-time, with an even better sequel, a 60:00 draw for the IWGP title in the main event of the 6/11 Dominion show from Osaka Jo Hall.

      When it was over, both men collapsed on the mat selling complete exhaustion. It was the first 60:00 draw in an IWGP heavyweight championship match since a March 26, 2005, title match with Satoshi Kojima vs. Manabu Nakanishi. There were three other previous one hour draws in IWGP title matches, a March 5, 2003 match with Nakanishi vs. Yuji Nagata, an October 21, 2002, match with Nagata vs. Masahiro Chono, and an August 8, 1988, match with Tatsumi Fujinami defending against Antonio Inoki.

      In a match filled with memorable moments, perhaps the best was Omega being done and Okada throwing the rainmaker, but Omega collapsed to the ground as Okada threw and Okada missed the move and went flying.

      The key story of the match they were trying to tell is that Omega is the first person that Okada can’t beat with the rainmaker, as he hit him with it multiple times, but we still don’t know if Okada can survive the One Winged Angel. Omega hit the move once during the match but Okada’s foot was on the ropes.

      A 60:00 match is far riskier today when a 30:00 match seems like an eternity. The idea of such a match had gotten so much talk that in his pre-match interview, Omega downplayed it by saying this match would not last the nearly 47 minutes of the first one, and it was not going 60.

      Okada’s next title defense will be on 7/1 in Long Beach against Cody, who defeated Michael Elgin on this show and spit beer in Okada’s face at the post-show press conference.

      There is a very good chance that Cody will be winning the ROH title from Christopher Daniels on the 6/23 PPV show in Lowell, MA. If he does, and obviously, until it happens, it hasn’t happened, that creates the unique situation of the world champion of Japan’s No. 1 organization against the world champion of the (very distant) No. 2 organization in the U.S. That may in part play into why that match will headline New Japan’s first U.S. show. The title vs. title match was always huge in the past to hardcore fans, but it’s hard to say for today’s hardcore fan where titles have been devalued. The IWGP title and the way it’s booked goes against the industry trend.

      This leaves an interesting question about the finish. ROH has long since had a rule that their world champion can’t lose a singles match on shows outside the organization. This is more than an indie show, since the 7/1 card will be broadcast live on AXS in a four-plus hour window in what is described as a modern version of the old Clash of the Champions and Battle of the Belts type television specials that WCW and Championship Wrestling from Florida did in the 80s and 90s. The companies are working more closely together. The 7/1 AXS show is being advertised on many of the Sinclair stations during ROH programming. The 6/23 ROH PPV has been advertised on AXS during the New Japan show.

      Usually, in those scenarios, you do a draw, which would be acceptable except it was just done this week, or a double count out or DQ finish which today wouldn’t be received well at all. In 1991, when New Japan booked Ric Flair (NWA/WCW champion) vs. Fujinami (IWGP champion) at the Tokyo Dome, they booked a finish where Fujinami pinned Flair to apparently win all the titles with the old Dusty finish, so it was huge pop ending in Japan. It was later ruled, since Fujinami threw Flair over the top rope prior to the finish, that under WCW rules, that was a DQ, so Flair retained the WCW title, but Fujinami was still NWA & IWGP champion. Flair later regained the NWA title on a WCW PPV show, but the NWA title aspect was only talked about in Japan, not the U.S.

      There appears to be a major storyline brewing in some form. During the Omega vs. Okada match, there was a sequence where Okada came off the top rope onto a table on the floor with an elbow drop. The wood on the thick table cracked, but didn’t fully break. Okada followed with a missile dropkick and two rainmakers. Cody came out and wanted to throw in the towel, but the Young Bucks wouldn’t let him, basically a takeoff on the finish of the Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Royce Gracie Tokyo Dome match in 2000 where Rorion Gracie wanted to throw in the towel but for several minutes but Helio wouldn’t allow it, a finish that came back into the public eye this past week because of the video of Kazushi Sakuraba going into the UFC Hall of Fame and the talk about their match. Owen Hart was in a somewhat similar role in the match where Bob Backlund beat Bret Hart for the WWF title in 1994, although in both of those cases, the towel was thrown in for the finish. In this, the tease was strong, but the towel wasn’t thrown in. Cody kept insisting that Omega was too badly injured and the match needed to be stopped, but in fact, Omega recovered and wrestled for a long time after that.

      Later, after Okada had retained the title, and was backstage during his media interview, Cody showed up and challenged him to a title match in Long Beach before spitting beer in his face.

      Dominion, the company’s annual June show in Osaka which dates back to 2009, became the company’s No. 2 show of the year when it comes to major matches and depth starting in 2015, when it was moved from the long-time home at the Furitsu Gym (later called the Bodymaker Coliseum and currently the Edion Arena) to Osaka Jo Hall, an arena they hadn’t run since September 27, 1994. One can argue the G-1 final show at Sumo Hall is bigger, but that’s a one-match show.

      This year’s show, with the Okada vs. Omega title match and four rematches from Wrestle Kingdom at the Tokyo Dome, drew the company’s all-time record gate in the building, with an advanced sellout with standing room of 11,756 paid. They increased ticket prices from last year, when they drew 9.925 paid. Ticket prices were increased 50 percent from last year, with the idea that the Okada vs. Omega rematch would be a major draw.

      The show was, from a match quality standpoint, one of the best shows in company history. You can make an argument this show was better than this year’s Tokyo Dome show, particularly due to the main event. Of the four rematches, three of them, Omega vs. Okada, Hiromu Takahashi vs. Kushida for the IWGP jr. title and Rocky Romero & Baretta vs. Young Bucks for the IWGP jr. tag titles, were better than their Wrestle Kingdom 11 counterparts. The fourth, Tetsuya Naito vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi, was very different, but certainly on the same level with some of the best in-ring storytelling of any match this year. I thought it was slightly better than last year as well, but it was close whereas the other three I thought were clearly better than their Dome match.

      Okada vs. Omega basically broke the bank on superlatives, if the first match was one of the few ****** matches in history, this may have been the first Milky Way Galaxy match. And this was hardly the perfect time or place, even if Osaka and Dominion ahead of time looked like it would be. This wasn’t the usual super hot Osaka crowd, and the main event’s bell rang roughly four hours after the start of the show, and followed a match of the year contender with the emotional draining element of Tanahashi, fighting with one arm, beating Naito, who had been destroying and defacing the IC title belt. As hard as it appeared to follow Tanahashi vs. Naito at the Dome, this was even harder because not only did you have the drama of the one-armed Tanahashi winning via submission, but this was his first win in a singles title match in two-and–a-half years, since his January 4, 2015, successful title defense of the IWGP title at the Tokyo Dome against Okada, and Naito had essentially declared Tanahashi past his prime and irrelevant after beating him at this year’s Wrestle Kingdom.

      Omega vs. Okada was a very different match from the first one. The first one went 46:40, building to the key moves late. This time, going 60:00, they had to pull out all the stops. Omega survived multiple rainmakers, including one just seconds before the finish. Omega finally hit the One Winged Angel, but Okada got his leg over the ropes to stop the count.

      There was no vibe of a 60:00 main event as the show was going on. The key undercard matches all were given time and if you’re planning a one hour broadway, you normally wouldn’t start it four hours into the show nor have so many long matches underneath. They were building the apparent finishing sequences around 40:00 in, to where it felt like there simply wasn’t enough left to go much longer. At the 50:00 mark, you had to think it was going to a one hour draw, but New Japan had done a finish in the Tenzan vs. Kojima match just 11 seconds shy of 60 minutes in a 2005 major match.

      For this publication, Dominion had 580 responses, all but one being a thumbs up. It was the largest number of responses for a show to our poll since the 2013 WrestleMania (602). It beat both this year’s Wrestle Kingdom (534) and this year’s WrestleMania (523). I expected it would be big, but expected it more at the SummerSlam or Royal Rumble level. Obviously, this is a very unique audience as the interest level in the U.S. didn’t even measure 20,000 Google searches. The only number on New Japan World is that on the morning before Dominion they had gotten roughly the same amount of new subscriptions as the morning before the Tokyo Dome, with about 60 percent of them coming from the U.S.

      However more than 90 percent of the new subscribers from the Tokyo Dome show (most of which didn’t stay as the number a month ago was roughly the same as the number in December before the Dome spike) came in the hours before the show and in the 24 hours after the show based on reaction to the show. Even though this Omega vs. Okada match was better than the first, it felt to me that the first got a lot more reaction, particularly from a media standpoint.

      It was the same thing with Ricochet and Will Ospreay in May, where their second match was as good as the first, and perhaps better. But the first match got an incredible amount of reaction worldwide because of all the debates it inspired, and the debates played themselves out and for the second match, people’s expectations were so high, and also, this year’s Super Juniors tournament had a higher quality of great matches.

      Exactly what this means next is interesting. Omega did an incredible 20 minute plus promo prior to this match where he both did and didn’t break the fourth wall, talking about how if New Japan is going international he, not Okada, needs to be the champion. The interview was designed for him to be the babyface outside of Japan, but the heel, if that’s even the right term, in Japan.

      Throwing Cody in the mix can take things in many different directions. Cody could beat Okada and get the title, with the storyline that everyone knows Okada was beaten down the past few months by the schedule, with the grueling Omega match as the climax of this story and some could see Cody backdooring into a title win that Omega “deserved.” This could lead to Cody vs. Omega, which also works to make Cody the Bullet Club leader in the event Omega goes to WWE in 2018. If Omega does leave, they do have to get a new top foreign singles star ready for the spot. Earlier this year, they were teasing something similar with Omega vs. Adam Cole, but it never went anywhere as Cole finished up in New Japan and Omega’s U.S. visa ended up delayed so he couldn’t do the match at the ROH New York show, which was the original plan. It puts Cody in the position to be a new headliner, and the Okada match is a major one for him because of the run of matches Okada has had and the ridiculous expectation of an Okada title defense.

      This could lead to an Elite vs. Bullet Club feud, or simply Omega being kicked out and going as a babyface, essentially doing the angle A.J. Styles could have done if things didn’t work out in WWE. It’s also possible it could lead to nothing, as the Omega distraction of Kota Ibushi when he challenged Styles for the IWGP title never led to anything with Omega and Ibushi. But there are endless possibilities.

      Regarding Omega vs. Okada, there is expected to be a third meeting before the end of the year. Okada’s run as champion over the past year should go down as legendary, with the title defenses against Marufuji, the two with Omega, Minoru Suzuki, Katsuyori Shibata all being among the best matches of the past year, as well as a strong non-title win over Tiger Mask W and a very good match with Bad Luck Fale.

      There ended up being four title changes in the seven title matches at Dominion. The Young Bucks won the IWGP jr. tag titles for the sixth time, beating Romero & Baretta, and pushed it like it was equivalent to Michael Jordan’s six rings. Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa won the IWGP heavyweight tag titles from War Machine, which I thought was premature. War Machine has done great as a team in Japan and even with the lack of depth in that division, they didn’t need to lose so soon. Kushida beat Hiromu Takahashi to win the IWGP jr. title. I felt this was early because Takahashi has been an incredible champion, but after Kushida lost to Takahashi in 1:56 in their last meeting, the way the storyline had played, it looked like he’d regain it. And given Kushida’s position and his match quality, you can’t complain about it. Plus, Kushida vs. Takahashi has the chance to be a multi-year legendary program. And Tanahashi beat Naito.

      Minoru Suzuki retained the Never open weight title beating former champion Hirooki Goto in an interference-filled lumberjack match. Seiya Sanada & Evil & Bushi retained the Never trios titles in a gauntlet series of matches.

      The Okada vs. Omega future storyline really revolves around what decision Omega makes come January. If he stays, he should get a long run as champion and be the international face of the company. Given his performances, for Japan, he as champion with Japanese stars chasing him should work, and for expansion internationally, he’s the better face of the company than Okada.

      This leads to the U.S. title tournament that the company is doing on 7/1 and 7/2 in Long Beach. Omega is in the tournament. For a WWE-weaned modern fan, a U.S. title would seem below the level of Omega, although when WWE put the title on John Cena, its biggest star, the title never meant more. It’s the man who makes the belt today and if Omega wins, it goes from being just another mid-card title, to a main event level title, similar to how Shinsuke Nakamura elevated the IC title, as did Naito, and as likely will Tanahashi.

      The announcements this week of the Long Beach lineup brought with it some negativity, largely with Cody getting the IWGP title match and Billy Gunn getting the IC title match with Tanahashi. From a Japanese perspective, if it is title vs. title, that would seem to be huge in their mindset for a U.S. debut. Gunn is a misfire. Gunn and Yoshitatsu put on the tour with the idea both had time in WWE misses the point of the fans of New Japan in the U.S. Gunn is fine as an undercard nostalgia guy in a multiple person match. Perhaps, even down the line, you could do the veteran going for one last bit of glory once he’s established as a nostalgic figure. But for here, it’s not the right time. Plus, having two guys who were in WWE but not pushed to the top there (Gunn was part of a major stable and well known because he was an Attitude-era star, but that was also more than 15 years ago) going after two singles titles feels like the booking mistake TNA would do. I’ve got no issue with Cody in the spot because there are so many storyline ways to go and it feels like New Japan sees him as a long-term star. But two of them on the same weekend amplifies the idea it’s guys who weren’t on top in WWE getting shots at New Japan’s two top titles.

      AXS is planning on a marathon of New Japan in three weeks. The Dominion show will be edited down to two hours, from 7-9 p.m. There will be the all-time New Japan marathon leading to the live show at 8 p.m. Eastern from Long Beach.

      The bracketing in the U.S. title tournament is Omega vs. Michael Elgin, Jay Lethal vs. Hangman Page, Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Juice Robinson and Tomohiro Ishii vs. Tetsuya Naito. Those matches all take place on 7/1. Omega vs. Elgin and Naito vs. Ishii are rematches of tremendous matches from Japan.

      On 7/2, they will have the semifinals (Omega winner vs. Lethal winner, Sabre winner vs. Naito winner) and the main event on 7/2 will be the championship match.

      As we’ve seen with the New Japan Cup, when it comes to New Japan single elimination tournaments, there are usually upsets and the dream matches usually don’t happen. The optimum is Omega vs. Lethal and Sabre vs. Naito in the semis and Omega vs. Naito as the championship match.

      There will be a very negative reaction in particular if Omega is ousted before the finals, and to an extent if Naito is. But you don’t know the long-term story New Japan wants to tell. It has to fit into plans for G-1 and next year’s Wrestle Kingdom main matches and it’s not about making fans who want to see something on that night and giving them instant gratification. However, it is imperative the first and second show featuring significant news for the American market. Naito did just lose the title so it doesn’t feel like the right time for Ishii to beat him. Omega had to lose in the New Japan Cup because it was too early for Omega vs. Okada III, but that isn’t the case here.

      On paper, it looks like it could produce incredible matches, but asking for three Omega-level singles matches in two days may be much, particularly with the two bouts on the second night.

      Omega and Naito had one of last year’s best matches in the B block finals of G-1 and they haven’t wrestled since. If the tourney does go with those two in the finals, it sounds strong, but the New Japan Cup booking actually avoids those kinds of matches. Omega and Ishii have worked twice this year and Omega vs. Sabre would be an indie dream match, the reality is this tour is New Japan so Naito would be better in that spot.

      The opening day match order has Mark & Jay Briscoe & Will Ospreay & Rocky Romero & Baretta vs. Young Bucks & Bad Luck Fale & Yujiro Takahashi & Marty Scurll, Jushin Liger & Volador Jr. & Dragon Lee & Titan vs. Seiya Sanada & Evil & Bushi & Hiromu Takahashi, Lethal vs. Page, Sabre Jr. vs. Robinson, Tanahashi & Kushida & Jay White & David Finlay vs. Gunn & Yoshitatsu & Yohei Komatsu & Sho Tanaka, Tonga & Roa vs. War Machine for the IWGP tag titles, Naito vs. Ishii, Omega vs. Elgin and Okada vs. Cody for the IWGP title.

      The second day lineup won’t be announced until after the first day because of the tournament. The tournament final will be the main event, plus they’ll have Young Bucks vs. Romero & Baretta for the IWGP jr. tag title and Tanahashi vs. Gunn for the IC title.

      The secondary market is strong, but not outrageous, with the price of entry being $97 for the first night and $104 for the second night.

      They didn’t make any G-1 announcements this week after all. It had been reported in Japan, and had been tradition, that the G-1 lineups and top matches would be announced during intermission at Dominion. But there was no intermission.

      Right now the plan is to announce the participants at the 6/20 show at Korakuen Hall. Then the breakdown of the A block vs. B block will be announced on 6/26 at Korakuen Hall. And then the top matches for the tour will be announced on 6/27 at Korakuen Hall. All of the shows will air live on New Japan World.

      Last year, there were 20 participants. Right now, I’d say there are probably 17 locks, who are Fale, Goto, Ishii, Togi Makabe, Okada, Sanada, Tanahashi, Elgin, Evil, Nagata (who it has been announced will be in his last-ever G-1), Naito, Omega, Yoshi-Hashi, Suzuki, Robinson and Sabre Jr. Toru Yano is also possible for a comedy relief spot. People like Satoshi Kojima, Tama Tonga, Yujiro Takahashi, Page, Tanga Roa, War Machine and Davey Boy Smith Jr., are also possibilities, as well as the possibility of outsiders given the company has just opened up relationships with All Japan and they may also bring in someone from ROH.

      Next up for New Japan is the Kizuna Road shows from 6/18 to 6/27. Three of the shows will air on New Japan World, all starting at 5:30 a.m. Eastern time.

      6/20 has Tomoyuki Oka vs. Tetsuhiro Yagi, Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Desperado & Taka Michinoku vs. Jushin Liger & Tiger Mask & Shota Umino, Nagata & David Finlay vs. Manabu Nakanishi & Katsuya Kitamura, Makabe & Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Kojima vs. Ishii & Yano & Jado, Tanahashi & Hirai Kawato vs. Naito & Hiromu Takahashi, Okada & Goto & Yoshi-Hashi vs. Suzuki & Smith & Taichi and headlined by Sanada & Evil & Bushi defending the trios titles against Kushida & Robinson & Taguchi.

      A few things to note here is the Nakanishi & Kitamura pairing of the old powerhouse and the new powerhouse, and also Kawato already teaming with Tanahashi against Naito & Takahashi. Obviously, Kawato is there to lose, but Kawato has been getting more and more focused on and it’s pretty clear that Oka, Kitamura, Kawato and Umino are stars of the future, and that Kawato is already being put in higher profile spots.

      6/26 has Umino vs. Yagi, Oka vs. Kitamura, Kanemaru & Taichi & Michinoku vs. Liger & Tiger Mask & Kawato, Tenzan & Kojima & Nagata & Nakanishi vs. Goto & Ishii & Yano & Jado, Okada & Gedo vs. Smith & Desperado, Tanahashi & Makabe & Robinson & Taguchi & Finlay vs. Naito & Sanada & Evil & Bushi & Hiromu Takahashi, and Suzuki vs. Yoshi-Hashi for the Never title.

      Suzuki vs. Yoshi-Hashi was set up at Dominion when Yoshi-Hashi got a glory spot cleaning house of all of Suzuki-gun including Suzuki at one point and challenges were issued. Also at Dominion, there was a tease down the line of Suzuki vs. Liger, since they got into it with Liger on commentary for the Suzuki vs. Goto match and the crowd reacted big to that.

      6/27 has Umino vs. Yagi, Tiger Mask& Kawato vs. Kanemaru & Michinoku, Nagata & Nakanishi & Oka vs. Tenzan & Kojima & Liger, Makabe & Kitamura vs. Ishii & Yano, Tanahashi & Robinson & Taguchi & Finlay vs. Naito & Evil & Sanada & Hiromu Takahashi, Okada & Goto & Yoshi-Hashi & Gedo vs. Suzuki & Smith & Taichi & Desperado and Kushida vs. Bushi for the IWGP jr. title.

      Dominion notes:

      1. David Finlay & Tomoyuki Oka & Shota Umino beat Hirai Kawato & Tetsuhiro Yagi & Katsuya Kitamura in 7:38. Fun fast-paced opener, a step above their usual stuff. Umino and Yagi came out fast. Kitamura and Oka got the crowd into their hard shoulder blocks with neither budging. Kitamura also did a Karelin lift on Oka and his sick hard chops. Finlay pinned Yagi after an uppercut off the middle ropes and a stunner. **3/4

      2. Togi Makabe & Yuji Nagata & Tiger Mask W & Tiger Mask beat Jushin Liger & Manabu Nakanishi & Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan in 7:01. Everyone did their usual spots. The crowd loved Liger. The Tiger Mask’s did the Mil Mascaras/Dos Caras flying cross chops. TM W was toned down from usual but did do a double Pele kick on Kojima & Tenzan. Makabe pinned Nakanishi after a King Kong kneedrop to the back of the head. **3/4

      3. Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii & Yoshi-Hashi beat Bad Luck Fale & Yujiro Takahashi & Hangman Page in 6:01. This was the first match of the Never trios gauntlet. Not much to it. Ishii clotheslined Fale to the floor. Yujiro and Page collided and Yano gave both low blows behind the refs back and pinned Yujiro with a schoolboy. *1/2

      4. Zack Sabre Jr. & Taichi & Yoshinobu Kanemaru beat Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii & Yoshi-Hashi in :43. This continued the gauntlet. Kanemaru tried to use the whiskey bottle but the ref stopped him. Yano tried to low blow Sabre, but it was blocked and Sabre used a bridging pin on him.

      5. Ricochet & Ryusuke Taguchi & Juice Robinson beat Zack Sabre Jr. & Taichi & Yoshinobu Kanemaru in 4:53. They did a gig where Taguchi acted like he was a catcher giving signals for the guys on his team to do moves like Robinson doing a cannonball on Sabre. Ricochet did a shooting star off Robinson’s back as Robinson bent over. Taichi hit Robinson with the hammer but Robinson kicked out of a penalty kick. Kanemaru went to blow the whiskey into Robinson’s face, but he ducked and it went in Taichi’s face. Robinson pinned Taichi with pulp fiction, which is the unprettier or killswitch. But after the match, Sabre put Robinson in the octopus hold while bending his fingers back to set up Robinson being injured before their next match. *1/2

      6. Seiya Sanada & Evil & Bushi retained the Never Open weight trios title over Ricochet & Ryusuke Taguchi & Juice Robinson in 7:02. There were some heel antics including Evil putting a chair around Taguchi’s neck and doing his baseball bat swing of the chair spot to the other chair. Ricochet got a hot tag doing a springboard missile dropkick on Evil and a 619 on Bushi. There was a tower of doom spot where Ricochet, who was not in the tower, got wiped out by Sanada, who was superplexed into him. The idea may have been for the spot to end with Ricochet power bombing Sanada, which would have been amazing if they could have pulled it off. Bushi tried the MX (codebreaker off the top) but instead landed with his groin on Taguchi’s knee and Taguchi used a dodon on him but Sanada saved. Taguchi kept working for an ankle lock on Bushi but Bushi came back to pin Taguchi with the MX. **½

      7. Young Bucks beat Rocky Romero & Trent Baretta to win the IWGP jr. tag titles in 14:14. The match opened with Baretta doing a running flip dive onto both. That was the spot in the first match where Baretta missed when they moved. They were brawling outside and Matt took out Romero with a power bomb on the apron, then ramming his back twice in the post and then a double-team power bomb on the apron. The next several minutes were heat on Baretta. This was more of a traditional tag match with the long heat spot. Matt was working on getting the sharpshooter over as a new finisher. Nick did a swanton off the apron on an outstretched Baretta. He also did a 450 on Baretta who was draped on the ropes, but he kicked out. Baretta came back with a German suplex and running knee on Matt, and got a near fall with a piledriver. They did the strong zero on Matt, which is their finisher, but Nick saved Matt with a swanton onto Baretta to break up the pin. Romero made the hot tag doing the forever clothesline and a huracanrana on both at the same time. Nick took out Baretta with a German suplex on the apron and Matt used a sharpshooter on Romero. Romero got to the ropes in a great spot. The Bucks went for More Bang for Your Buck but Baretta shoved Nick off the top and Romero got a near fall on Matt. Matt went for the sharpshooter, but Romero got a near fall with a small package. The finish saw the Bucks use the Indy taker on Romero and Matt got the submission using the sharpshooter on Romero. ****

      8. Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa beat Ray Rowe & Hanson to win the IWGP tag titles in 10:43. Another strong match. Hanson gave Tonga a high backdrop. Rowe did an exploder on Roa, who popped up. Roa did a German suplex on Rowe, who also popped up. Tonga and Rowe were throwing stiff shots on each other. They set up the fallout on Tonga, but Roa jumped to the ropes and did a superplex on Hanson. Hanson did a splash on Tonga and tope on Roa but Tonga kicked out of Rowe’s pin. Ref Massao Hattori was knocked out when Tonga threw Rowe into him. The finish saw Roa nail Rowe with a hard chair shot to the head (and this wasn’t the only time they did this, because they don’t have the concussion publicity in sports in Mexico and Japan like in the U.S., they still do this but they really shouldn’t) and Rowe was pinned after the double-team Guerrilla warfare. ***½

      9. Cody pinned Michael Elgin in 11:52. The early part of the match was Elgin one-upping Cody, including doing a 17-second suplex. Elgin also gave him a back suplex on the apron. They traded moves including Cody doing nice springboard dropkick. Elgin splashed him from outside in and did a delayed German suplex, a second German suplex and a third off the ropes. Cody did moves like an Indian deathlock, a disaster kick, and a draping downward spiral. Elgin tried his power superplex but Cody landed on his feet, kicked the knee and got the pin with crossroads. ***½

      10. Kushida beat Hiromu Takahashi in 19:12 to win the IWGP jr. title. Just an awesome match. They traded blows early and the crowd was the hottest it had been up until this point. They continued going back to the trading of elbows and hard chops until Takahashi did a belly-to-belly into the corner. He did a pop up power bomb and a falcon arrow for near falls. Takahashi went for his sunset flip power bomb out of the ring, but Kushida reversed into an armbar on the apron. Another big spot saw Kushida beat up Takahashi and put him on a chair over the guard rail but before the second guard rail. Kushida then set up a chair, which caused the fans to boo because they didn’t want Kushida to resort to a chair shot. He put the chair down, ran on the floor, springboarded off the chair and over the rail into a dropkick on Takahashi, sitting in the chair, which knocked Takahashi right through the other guard rail. Kushida worked the arm too set up the hoverboard lock. He got the hoverboard lock on while both were standing on the middle rope and did a hoverboard lock suplex into the ring. Takahashi went for another sunset flip power bomb out of the ring but Kushida violently stomped his way out of it. Finally Takahashi did hit the sunset flip power bomb out of the ring, and Kushida’s head landed hard on the mats. That’s another move that is nuts. They traded moves. They teased a double knockout but both got up at nine. They traded slow chops and punches and then Kushida cub stomped the hell out of him, used the hoverboard lock and just before Takahashi made the ropes, Kushida pulled him back in the center of the ring and Takahashi tapped. Kushida had vowed to win the title and have the crowd do the wave. As they were doing the wave, out of nowhere, Bushi showed up and blew mist in Kushida’s eyes. This angle was so well done because the cameras missed it, probably on purpose, and an angle during the wave is exactly when fans weren’t thinking angle. ****3/4

      11. Minoru Suzuki beat Hirooki Goto in 16:00 to retain the Never open weight title in a lumberjack death match. Goto came out with Yano, Yoshi-Hashi, Jado and Ishii. Suzuki came out with Desperado, Sabre, Kanemaru and Taka Michinoku. There was a ton of interference from both sides. The match was designed for interference and most of the time it was the Suzuki-gun side getting the better of it. At one point Suzuki slapped Liger, who was doing the TV announcing, in the face. Liger threw a chair at Suzuki. Suzuki then blew a kiss at Liger. The crowd was really wanting a Suzuki vs. Liger match. Goto finally made a comeback. They traded big spots including a sick elbow by Suzuki and the ushigoroshi by Goto. Suzuki threw Goto into ref Marty Asami and Suzuki-gun all attacked Goto. Yoshi-Hashi finally cleaned house since the match was really about putting Yoshi-Hashi over. Yoshi-Hashi nailed everyone with a running flip dive. After more reversals and big moves, Goto hit the GTR to the side and the front. Taichi pulled the ref out of the ring at two. The spot done constantly makes the company look bad, but saying that, the execution of it here was great. Taichi then hit Goto with a chair shot to the head and Suzuki used a dropkick, a choke and got the pin after a Gotch piledriver. Yoshi-Hashi again cleaned house on Suzuki-gun after the match and Suzuki, as he was on the ramp, challenged Yoshi-Hashi, who was in the ring. Yoshi-Hashi took off after him until he was pulled off. ***½

      12. Hiroshi Tanahashi beat Tetsuya Naito in 25:56 to win the IC title. Tanahashi jumped Naito before the match when Naito was still in his purple suit. Tanahashi’s right arm was heavily taped up but he did use it for punches and chops. Naito of course worked on the right arm. He used a tornado DDT on the ramp, but Tanahashi beat the 20 count back in. At one point Tanahashi spit on Naito. They did the Frye-Takayama spot. Naito then spit in Tanahashi’s hair. Naito went back to work on the right arm. Tanahashi then went to work on Naito’s bad right knee with dragon screws. He also did a high fly flow to the floor and Tanahashi started selling the damaged right arm. Naito had the armbar but Tanahashi made the ropes. Naito went for his flying forearm but Tanahashi turned it into a uranage. Both were fighting on the top rope and Naito threw elbows to Tanahashi’s bad biceps and gave him a Frankensteiner off the top, but Tanahashi rolled through with a sunset flip. Tanahashi did two twist and shout neckbreakers but missed the high fly flow. Tanahashi blocked the Destino and they traded hard slaps. Tanahashi kicked out of a Destino off the middle rope. Naito went for another Destino and hit a dragon suplex. After a sling blade, Tanahashi hit the high fly flow, but Naito kicked out. This is one of the two shows of the year where you do that. Tanahashi put him in the cloverleaf. Naito nearly made the ropes but Tanahashi pulled him to the center. He had the hold on, and bent Naito back like an extreme Walls of Jericho but with a cloverleaf. It seemed like it was on forever, and they teased a ref stoppage but Naito submitted. ****½

      13. Kazuchika Okada retained the IWGP heavyweight title with a 60:00 draw with Kenny Omega. Omega used a huracanrana on the floor and teased the Terminator dive, but Okada kicked him. Okada used a running flip dive and started selling like he hurt his left knee. Omega worked on the knee with a dropkick and a 70s Brisco avalanche leg dive. He worked it over with a kneebreaker and the figure four leglock, which Okada reversed ad they got into the ropes. Omega gave him a kneebreaker on the apron and threw the knee on top of the table. Omega went for a moonsault off the guard rail, but Okada shoved him and Omega flew into the other guard rail. Okada did the running crossbody over the guard rail onto Omega and drove him through the second guard rail. They both reversed out of tombstone attempts. Okada missed an elbow off the top. Omega did a top rope Asai moonsault to the floor where he nearly lost his balance for a second. Omega used a missile dropkick to the back of the head for a near fall. Omega did a power bomb, a forward fireman’s carry and middle rope moonsault, but Okada got his knees up. They teased both a top rope piledriver and a top rope dragon superplex, neither of which they did. Okada did a Death Valley bomb on the apron and a running Woo (Suwa) dropkick into the guard rail. Okada set up a table. Omega did a top rope superplex with knee pressure but missed a knee. They each got out of the rainmaker and One winged angel. Okada used two German suplexes and hit the rainmaker. Okada went for his big dropkick but Omega power bombed him. That was incredible. Okada later dropkicked him off the top to the floor. He put Omega on the table and came off the top rope with an elbow through the table, which cracked but didn’t fully break. Okada used a missile dropkick and a low dropkick. Omega was selling like he had no strength. Omega was throwing weak punches to the stomach and Okada hit two rainmakers. Okada wanted the ref to stop it and Cody came out and wanted to throw in the towel. The Bucks stopped Cody. Then Omega suddenly exploded with a jumping knee and a reverse huracanrana. He went for another knee but got hit with an Okada dropkick. Omega hit some running knees and hit the one winged angel for the first time in their two matches, but Okada got his foot on the ropes. Okada it another rainmaker and then stumbled. Omega hit the fast dragon suplex but Okada hit another dropkick. They traded elbows and Omega hit the running knees for a near fall. Omega went for the one-winged angel but Okada reversed into a tombstone. Okada went for another rainmaker, but Omega just collapsed causing Okada to miss. Both were trying gut wrenches to set up a tombstone but couldn’t get the other up. Omega hit all kinds of elbows and knees. He went for another one winged angel but Okada got out and hit a dropkick to the back. Okada hit a spinning tombstone, but then collapsed and couldn’t cover him. Okada did another German suplex, and another dropkick. Omega then started throwing backwards elbows and another snap dragon suplex. Okada hit another dropkick and hit the rainmaker and collapsed. Okada was crawling trying to get the pin when the bell rang. They didn’t gimmick the time at all, it was right at 60:00 and not on top for the two. You could argue that Omega, as challenger, should have been the one crawling. The match story was all about Omega’s survival so from that standpoint, Okada should have been trying for the pin at the end, and it really doesn’t matter. After their 1/4 match, which was one of the best matches I’ve ever seen, I watched the Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada match from 1994, which many call the best match ever. Obviously that is a subjective subject and there are tons of matches that can fit into that category, but more people I know would say Misawa vs. Kawada then any other. I would say the two were comparable. They were different. Misawa vs. Kawada was more a fight and more heated, like an incredible sports contest. Omega vs. Okada I was more spectacular when it came to moves, as we’re 23 years later but every bit as dramatic, which is ultimately the goal. What I can say is that while this match was not as heated as either of those two matches, it was more intense, featured better selling, was more drama and told a better story than either. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the greatest match they’ve ever seen. This was better than those two matches that I thought were the best ones I’d ever seen. It was the two best wrestlers in the world at this point in time, both in the best match of their lives. We are seeing history with this Okada championship run and this Omega vs. Okada program. This is the modern version of the 1989 Flair-Steamboat series, which consisted of three major national shows (they also did dozens of house show matches, most of which were close to the level, at least one of which was above the level, of the three national matches, which is something Omega and Okada didn’t do). Omega and Okada are right now scheduled for three matches this year, and after two, they are well ahead in comparison, even factoring in the time and place elements. I don’t know how you could top it, except some day, like everything, it will happen. ******1/4
      Mark Nulty †2016
    • NJPW 2017 G1 Glimax Bloecke

      In Block B wird es zu Okada vs Omega III in diesem Jahr kommen, vorausgesetzt es gibt keine(n) Verletzung/Verletzungs Angle.Block A gefaellt mir dennoch etwas besser.

      A Block
      Hiroshi Tanahashi
      Togi Makabe
      Tomohiro Ishii
      Hirooki Goto
      YOSHI-HASHI
      Bad Luck Fale
      Yuji Nagata
      Zack Sabre Jr.
      Kota Ibushi
      Tetsuya Naito

      B Block
      Kazuchika Okada
      Toru Yano
      Satoshi Kojima
      Michael Elgin
      Juice Robinson
      Tama Tonga
      SANADA
      EVIL
      Minoru Suzuki
      Kenny Omega
      Mark Nulty †2016
    • Block B gefällt mir mit Tonga, Okada, Elgin, SANADA, Suzuki und Omega auch sehr gut...


      Meine Highlights bisher: (Top Shows)

      Tag 1
      • YOSHI-HASHI vs Yuji Nagata - überraschend guter Opener.
      • Tomohiro Ishii vs Hirooki Goto - Strong Style Evolved... beide sicherlich 4* Wert
      • Zack Sabre Jr. vs Hiroshi Tanahashi - 4.75 - Mir hat's seehr gut gefallen.
      • Tetsuya Naito vs Kota Ibushi - Für mich Topwertung 5*, Aufbau, Selling, Spots, alles überragend.
      Tag 2
      • SANADA vs EVIL - 3.75
      • Kenny Omega vs Minoru Suzuki - 4.75 - weil ich nicht anders kann als Suzuki geil zu finden. (Evil Mickey Mouse...)
      Tag 3
      • Hirooki Goto vs Yuji Nagata / Togi Makabe vs Tomohiro Ishii - 3.75
      • Kota Ibushi vs Zack Sabre Jr. - 4.75 - CWC Finals anyone? Sonderklasse!
      Tag 4
      • Minoru Suzuki vs SANADA - 3.75 - Mit dem TagTeam Match vom Vorabend gute Story um SANADAS "Verschnürungsmove".
      • Tama Tonga vs Kenny Omega - 3.75 - Bullet Club Entertainment
      • Kazuchika Okada vs Michael Elgin - 4.25 - Viele imposante Powermoves.
      Tag 5
      • Togi Makabe vs Hirooki Goto - 3.5 - Strong Style Evolved
      • Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Yuji Nagata - 4 - Tanahashi gegen den symphatischen Blue Justice in der Heel Rolle...
      • Kota Ibushi vs Tomohiro Ishii - 4.5 - Clash of Styles - Der eigentliche Main Event.


      Ich glaube die Blocks sind dann doch ausgeglichen und beide sehr stark, denn A bietet zwar das bessere Wrestling, B überzeugt daneben durch mehr Storylines. Beides sind Nuancen und daher für mich toll umgesetzt :)

      scGEDO Championship Pick Em Rang nach 5 Tagen: 84 (waldgaist)

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    • Okay, hier meine 2 Cents von Tag 5:

      -Tanahashi vs Nagata gefiel mir sehr gut, bis jetzt hat Nagata einen ueberraschend starken G1 Climax was seine Leistungen betrifft.

      -Auch 2017 kann ich nicht nachvollziehen warum NJPW in irgendeiner Form Bad Luck Fale pusht, der ist grausam. Hier darf er Naito schlagen…Der einzige der noch schlechter ist wie er, ist Tama Tonga…

      -Ishii vs Ibushi auch stark.
      Mark Nulty †2016
    • Yup, Nagata's letzter Run im G1 ist mit guten Leistungen gespickt.

      Ich glaube, Tama Tonga würde in der WWE gut ankommen. Sein Style zeichnet ihn aus, weniger seine In-Ring Performance, imo.

      Fale is halt der Big Guy von NJPW. Immer das gleiche zu sehen, wär dann halt doch langweilig und für die Rolle find ich ihn gut.

      Mich nervt YOSHI-HASHI. Mag ja ab und an gute Leistungen bringen, aber der gute spricht mich nicht an. Kojima hät ich auch nicht mehr gebraucht und Goto's Leistungen enttäuschen mich bisher, dafür gefallen mir viele andere und so habe ich an jedem Abend zwei, vielleicht sogar drei intressante Paarungen für mich. :)



      Highlights: (Top Shows)

      Tag 6
      • Okada vs SANADA - War sehr gut. Ein Program der Beiden würde tolle Matches bringen und ich würde mir sie gerne ansehen.
      • Elgin vs Kojima - Gute Paarung.
      Tag 7
      • Makabe vs Ibushi - Ist vielleicht jedes Match mit Ibushi toll? Kann mir nicht helfen... :thumbup:
      • Naito vs Nagata - Naito ein wenig intensiver. Nagata mit volldampf. Hervorragend!!
      Tag 8
      • Suzuki vs Evil - Abwechslung mit Hardcore Elementen.
      • Okada vs Kojima - Hat mich nicht so gerissen, weil für mich zu klar war, wer gewinnen würde. War trotzdem besser als gut.
      • Elgin vs Omega - Ein Highlight des bisherigen Climax'.
      Tag 9
      • Ishii vs Naito - Nicht die beste Leistung von beiden, aber locker MotN.
      • ZSJ vs Goto, Makabe vs Nagata, Tanahashi vs YOSHI-HASHI und selbst Fale vs Ibushi waren allesamt gut.
      Tag 10
      • SANADA vs Elgin - beide zeigen klar ihr Potenial. SANADA gehört imo die Zukunft.
      Tag 11
      • Ishii vs Nagata - Top Leistung von beiden. Ein riesen Spass. Main Event würdig, wenn nicht....
      • Tanahashi vs Ibushi - Ziemlicher MotY-Anwärter für mich. Ibushi vs Tanahashi für den IC-Belt @ WK fänd ich toll!
      Tag 12
      • Omega vs Evil - Ein wenig zu lange, Evil wird mir zu stark dargestellt.
      • Toru Yano vs Elgin - Weils sonst an Highlights mangelte...

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    • Shibata kehrt zurueck/Naito gewinnt G-1 Climax

      Beim G-1 Climax Finale kehrte Katsuyori Shibata zurueck, was einem sehr emotionalen Moment fuehrte.





      Tetsuya Naito gewann den G1 Climax im Finale gegen Kenny Omega




      Viele Fans im Internet flippen ja gerade wieder aus aufgrund von Tanahashi vs Omega III und Naito vs Omega im Finale. Dave Meltzer verteilt wahrscheinlich gerade 8 Stars fuer das Finale….ich bin ja ungern wieder der Kritiker, aber das Sprichwort “less is more“ trifft hier absolut zu. Ich moechte mal Lance Storm zitieren der mal von einer Begegnung mit Randy Savage erzaehlte 1994 bei Smokey Mountain Wrestling. Nach dem Match mit Chris Jericho, nahm Savage Backstage die Beiden zu sich und Zitat:”He said he thought we should slow down a bit and pace ourselves.”

      Naito und Omega haben so viel Highspots reingepackt, auch einige dumme gefaehrliche Aktionen. Naito hatte beim table spot glueck das nichts Schlimmeres passiert ist. Das Match war gut, aber mit weniger spots, und pacing haette es besser sein koennen. Einige Spots hat man eine Minute nach dem sie passiert sind schon vergessen. Die Spots haben also nach kurzer Zeit keine Relevanz mehr. Man zeigt die Spots nur um die Spots zu zeigen. Weniger ist manchmal mehr.
      Mark Nulty †2016
    • Habe zwar nur die Highlights sehen können, aber die Finalmatches des A- und B-Blocks waren fantastisch und das Finale an sich waren echt fantastisch. Ich kann Nef schon verstehen, besonders wenn man da an die Finisher von Okada und Naito denkt, die extrem gespammt werden bzw. den V-Trigger von Omega. Obwohl ich auch gehört habe, dass es Tradition in Japan ist


      WWE Tippspielsieger 2015

    • Obwohl ich auch gehört habe, dass es Tradition in Japan is
      Kommt drauf an was man als Tradition sieht. Finisher Spaming ist in Japan seit ca 25 Jahren normal. In dem Zeitraum ist das Richtig. Davor allerdings, waren Finisher in Japan extrem geschuetzt.

      Mittlerweile gehoert das zum Japanischen Stil dazu, aber in den letzten 5 Jahren ist mein Eindruck das es noch Mal auf die Spitze getrieben wird,und das fuehrt zu mehreren Problemen.

      Erstens, das Finisher Spaming geht soweit, dass man in manchen Sequenzen vorher weiss, dass es NICHT das Finish ist. Das Prinzip des false finishes ist es ja, die Fans zu foolen, dass es zum Finish kommt, obwohl es weiter geht. Wenn man jedoch zu oft false finishes zeigt, dann wissen die Fans mit der Zeit das es weiter geht. Die Reaktionen auf den Kickout gehen dann zurueck.

      Wenn man aus einem Rainmaker auskickt, dann reicht das bald nicht mehr, und es braucht zwei, dann drei, dann vier (wo wir gerade sind). Das heisst, man muss sich immer steigern. Das fuehrt jedoch dazu, dass man erstens ein hohes Risiko eingeht, und es auf die Gesundheit geht, und zweitens das die Fans Moves die vorher zum finish fuehren konnten, dann nicht mehr ernst nehmen.

      Ein Beispiel, es braucht mittlerweile 3-4 Lariats von Okada fuer ein Finish, in der Regel. Jesus, 3-4 Lariats!!! Ich als Fan, will jedoch auch mal sehen wie, sagen wir mal, EIN Vertical Suplex zum Finish fuehrt, oder EIN Back Suplex, EIN German Suplex, EINE Powerbomb, etc. Doch diese Moves nimmt keiner mehr ernst und fuehren nicht mehr zu finishes.

      Das ist eine Entwicklung die dazu fuehrt, wo wir heute sind. Spammfests.
      Mark Nulty †2016
    • Y2Jericholic schrieb:

      Danke für die Perspektive! Stellt gut das Problem oder eines der Probleme von NJPW dar

      Würde mal behaupten, dass nicht nur NJPW dieses Problem hat. Liegt halt daran, dass sich das Wrestling im Allgemeinen verändert und heutzutage alles größer,schneller und besser werden muss. Gerade weil viele sich lediglich kurze Highlightvideos anschauuen (ich ja auch) müssen Sequenzen voll mit Finisher sein so ein richtige Matchphilosophie versteht man ja nicht in einem kurzen Video.
      Dafür ist aber der One Winged Angel noch extrem geschützt, was auch extrem betont wird immer.

      Naito als Gewinner finde ich gut, er ist jetzt viel etablierter für den Spot als vor 3 (?) Jahren. Aber es sollte mal wieder der G1 Sieger sich auch den Titel holen finde ich.
      Zurück zu alter Stärke. Nur der KSC ! <3

    • Würde mal behaupten, dass nicht nur NJPW dieses Problem hat. Liegt halt daran, dass sich das Wrestling im Allgemeinen verändert und heutzutage alles größer,schneller und besser werden muss
      Natuerlich, man sieht es auch bei WWE oder anderswo. Dennoch ist es bei NJPW imo auffaelliger, da NJPW lange Zeit eher abgeschottet war gegenueber dem amerikanischen Stil, was sich aber geaendert hat. Dadurch wirkt die Veraenderung bei NJPW mehr wie bei z. Bsp. WWE, letztere war schon immer auch stark beeinflusst von anderen Promotions.


      Chris Jericho nannte NJPW overrated.


      Zu der New Japan Destruction in Fukushima, der letzten grossen Show am Wochenende. Einer der schlechtesten NJPW Shows der letzten Jahre, mit einem der schlechtesten NJPW Main Events an die ich mich erinnern kann. Typisches Beispiel fuer oben. Ein Gaijin (Elgin) der schrecklich ist, und nur aus big moves und Punches und Kicks besteht….Ein Match das nur aus Run Ins mit nonsense booking besteht….Referee Bump….Fuck Comedy Bullshit Finish (Iron Finger…)…
      Mark Nulty †2016