Unforgiven PPV Results

[Mr. Socko]

Mahlzeit

Der PPv hört sich ja ganz gut an von den Matches her.

Muss ich mir noch unbedingt anschauen auf Video oder so, vom Kumpel meine ich.
Und wer ist nun noch Champ?? oder neu Champ??? ?( 8)

[ossyac]

Na der NATURE BOY IST IC CHAMP!
steht doch alles im threat!

WHOOOO

[Double F]

Dann geb ich auch noch meinen Senf dazu

Also der Raw Umzugs-Spot war ja sowas von geil! Carlito schaufelt seinen Sand in nen Koffer, HHH zerlegt was und am Schluss im Auto einfach genial!

Flair is einfach Kult. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Vier Mädels und dann umfallen, einfach nur super. Sein A*sch musste natürlich auch gezeigt werden!

Muss auch sagen, dass ich sehr positiv überrascht war vom PPV!
Sieht man auch an den Tippspielergebnissen. Da waren nicht viel dabei die fast alles richtig getippt hatten, das spricht für den PPV, weil er undurchsichtig war, und das ist finde ich sehr wichtig!!!

Masters war ja wirkich eine Zumutung im Ring! Das war jetzt nach dem Berlin Event das erste mal, dass ich ihn in einem längeren Match sah, aber in Berlin habe ich nicht so aufgepasst, wie die Moves so ausgeführt wurden, sondern hab alles wirken lassen! Diesmal konnte ich mal etwas aufpassen und ich muss sagen, der kann ja wirklich gar nix!! Ich nehme alles zurück, was ich bisher über diesen Mann geschrieben habe! Der is ja sowas von Talentlos, da tat mir HBK richtig Leid!!
Der muss weg!

Das mit dem DQ war nicht schlecht, so geht das ganze bis Taboo Tuesday weiter. War ja auch angekündigt! Carlito wird sicherlich ein Re-Match fordern! Flair bleibt auch weiterhin an der Seite von HHH, nach dem Promo im Ring! Da hätte man aus dem Angriff im Backstagebereich wirklich viel mehr machen können!!!

Also ich gebe diesem PPV eine 2-, da ich sehr positiv überrascht war und das ganze einfach nicht vorherzusehen war!!!!

[Nefercheperur]

Hier ein Artikel der ua das Finish von Unforgiven anspricht:

THREE EXAMPLES OF WWE'S LACK OF CREATIVITY
by Buck Woodward /PWInsider.com

Sometimes, it seems that blasting the so-called "Creative Team" in World Wrestling Entertainment has become a national pastime for wrestling fans. Stephanie McMahon and her band of merry yes-men are easy targets for problems in the industry because, well, because it's their fault! They control the product we see, and the success or failure of WWE programming rests on their shoulders. Sure, the talent has a responsibility as well, but they can only work with what they are given. John Travolta is a great actor, but he can't turn "Battlefield Earth" into "Pulp Fiction". It all comes down to the Creative Team and the storylines, angles, and programs they put together.

Recently, a new problem has arisen when it comes to WWE Creative and their output. This time, it has nothing to do with the quality of what they are writing (although we could certainly criticize that again) but rather the ridiculously repetitive nature of what they are presenting. Now, wrestling has always been about recycling ideas and concepts, and there's nothing wrong with that. After all, wrestling has existed for decades, and never has an "off-season", so you practically have to present variations on the same themes again and again. There's only so many versions of "good vs. evil" and even "good vs. good/evil vs. evil" that can be presented.

No, the problem here is much more basic. In the last three months, WWE has shown no imagination in several major angles and matches. They have literally redone the exact same concept, within weeks of doing in the first time. How sad and pathetic is it that WWE Creative couldn't even be bothered to dig into the tape library and find something older to revamp? Nope, WWE is copying things that they just did this summer! Don't believe me? Here's three examples for you:

Example #1: On August 15, 2005, on the "go home" edition of Raw before Summerslam, John Cena defeated Chris Jericho (his Summerslam opponent) & Carlito in a handicap match, the result of Eric Bischoff wanting to destroy Cena before the PPV. Cena, despite the overwhelming odds, pinned Carlito, but was then laid out by Jericho.

On September 12, 2005, on the "go home" edition of Raw before Unforgiven, John Cena defeated Kurt Angle (his Unforgiven opponent) & Tyson Tomko in a handicap match, the result of Eric Bischoff wanting to destroy Cena before the PPV. Cena, despite the overwhelming odds, pinned Tomko, but was then laid out by Angle.

Example #2: At the Great American Bash on July, 24, 2005, in the main event, World Champion Batista lost to JBL via disqualification when he used an illegal object, a chair, on JBL that had been brought into the ring by someone else (Orlando Jordan).

At Unforgiven on September 18, 2005, in the main event, WWE Champion John Cena lost to Kurt Angle via disqualification when he used an illegal object, a title belt, on Angle that had been brought into the ring by someone else (Eric Bischoff).

Example #3: On the August 25th edition of Smackdown, the first show for the brand following the Summerslam Pay-per-view, the top babyfaces (Batista, Rey Mysterio & Chris Benoit) were matched up in a multi-person tag team match against their three opponents from the just completed PPV (JBL, Eddie Guerrero & Orlando Jordan). The babyfaces were triumphant, and celebrated together in the ring to close the show.

On the September 19th edition of Raw, the first show for the brand following the Unforgiven Pay-per-view, the top babyfaces (John Cena, Shawn Michaels, Big Show & Matt Hardy) were matched up in a multi-person tag team match against their four opponents from the just completed PPV (Kurt Angle, Chris Masters, Gene Snitsky & Edge). The babyfaces were triumphant, and celebrated together in the ring to close the show.

I'm sure some will defend WWE Creative by claiming they are "saving the good stuff" for USA, but that logic is flawed. For starters, what good does it do you to present a repetitive product now, and risk losing some of your loyal viewers prior to a big move where you are counting on word-of-mouth to help with the change? Also, these are not undercard programs or "filler feuds" used to take up space on the shows. These are the top stars of the respective brands, the angles and bouts that garner the most attention, and should be indicative of the best work of WWE Creative.

Then again, maybe this is the best that WWE Creative can do.

You can write me at BuckWrestling@aol.com